Curse

lg5000 · Nov 14, 2005, 07:54 AM // 07:54

I want to learn their language.

Xethrion · Nov 14, 2005, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Yes, they're speaking in chinese.

jin wuqi basically means gold weapons.

cai liao means ingredients, or in this case, I think it means weapon components.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 14, 2005, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

There are no bargains there.

Nope. And why should they sell anything cheap - their real business is selling gold on ebay. High prices are their lifeblood.

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How can you tell a bot when you see one in town?

Normally you can't. Not even ANet can detect bots reliably. Also the farms employ human minders, each watching several bots (in case a bot gets stuck, or if a GM gets suspicious and PMs a bot) and he'll answer if you try to talk to the bot. Also any trading is done by humans - as far as I know bots can't trade with humans (there is, or atleast was, bots which can speculate in npc trader commodities, though).

Willy Rockwell · Nov 14, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18

After studying the population in Augury Int I do believe most of them are bots. They do not move or emote, do not form groups, they are almost all monks and when most of them speak they only say "shou wu qi". In fact, they seem to be programmed to say this over and over. I think the bots are only there long enough to get their backpacks cleared out, then they are sent back out to farm. The market for GW gold on Ebay is huge and has become quite an industry.

Sister Rosette · Nov 14, 2005, 01:31 PM // 13:31

I saw one say 'Shaq Fu' the other day.
I got scared and logged out. Then dug out my
Sega Genesis and played it.

FIREY BASKETBALLS FTW

Nefertem · Nov 14, 2005, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I think Chinese text support is still in Beta development, is it not?

Xethrion · Nov 14, 2005, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Funnily enough, I can read their chinese text just fine. Perhaps it's because I have it installed on my comp already.

Pong · Nov 14, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

I have been here many times. I'm surprised people are just now noticing this. If you go down to where most of the monks are exiting out of prophets path, you will notice that about 1 in every 9 get stuck behind the sign at the portal. I think these are the bots. All these guys buy cheap here and then they go to Lions Arch d 1 to sell. If you stay in there for about 20 min or so and watch the guys spamming and then go to lions arch a little later you will see them. I have seen about 7 of them spam for over 24 hrs non stop. I would say they are just earning gold to sell on a web site.

Gwenhywar · Nov 14, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Numa Pompilius - amusing that someone with so little clue on the matter of prices and trade value of items is so insisting on making it known to everyone who wanders into this thread

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I won't even add any comments, AncientPC and others already have said it all.

Willy Rockwell · Nov 14, 2005, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Gwenhywar

Numa Pompilius - amusing that someone with so little clue on the matter of prices and trade value of items is so insisting on making it known to everyone who wanders into this thread

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I won't even add any comments, AncientPC and others already have said it all.

I thought Numa's comment was very helpful. Yours was just arrogant. Do you expect us all to read every single thread on this very large board before we comment on something? I have no idea what AncientPC's contribution might have been.

Loquetus · Nov 14, 2005, 02:46 PM // 14:46

strange thing is that now people in augury rock europe district are typing in korean aswell
always typing the same thing over again
rather annoying

Jetdoc · Nov 14, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27

If you want to cause mass chaos, go in there and type in...

"WTB Axe!!!!"

I bet you get 100 messages in 10 seconds flat.

koren · Nov 14, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Whosaidwhatnow

As a person who lives in Asia I can assure you people aren't playing computer games in concentration camps...

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3141815

Shadowdaemon · Nov 14, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

I saw one say 'Shaq Fu' the other day.
I got scared and logged out. Then dug out my
Sega Genesis and played it.

FIREY BASKETBALLS FTW

muahahahahahahaha good one, thats f*ing hilarious

oh and by the way, i have bought from korean farmers in lions arch before, they sell stuff pretty cheap actually, some people make money buying of them and reselling for more, im to impatient for it, but it really does work

relaxed · Nov 14, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I'd like to clear up for all here that there are no Koreans trading in the district. I speak Korean and I believe that all of the people in Int. Augery1 speak Chiinese.

To Jetoc's comment above: This seems to be a closed community of Chinese traders. If you spam that you "WTB anything", you will get no response.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 14, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

I thought Numa's comment was very helpful. Yours was just arrogant. Do you expect us all to read every single thread on this very large board before we comment on something? I have no idea what AncientPC's contribution might have been.

In brief AncientPCs contribution was that the professional sweatshop farmers at Augury Rock, intl district, sell things at 50-75% the price of what the hobbyist farmers at Lions Arch do.
There was more, notably that I made a mistake in my choice of example of why paying huge sums for a perfect upgrade is stupid (although he agreed with the gist of the argument) but that's the core.

Anyone can go to Augury Rock, intl. district, and check prices for themselves. IME, however, the professional farmers there are definitely not cheaper than hobbyist farmers in the EU realm.

What Gwenhywars beef is I do not know.

EternalTempest · Nov 15, 2005, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Ahh sweet, Now I know where to go to look for cheap upgrades

Willy Rockwell · Nov 15, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

As I wrote previously, the prices at Augury Int are higher than elsewhere, and the people there don't really seem to want to sell to outsiders. They are busy doing incomprehensible things.
I said "wtb Ecto" and got a price much higher than anywhere else. Why they are in Int I don't know. Doesn't Asia have its own servers?

AncientPC · Nov 15, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Nefertem

I think Chinese text support is still in Beta development, is it not?

If you hit F11 you can change to Chinese text and it works just fine.

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

After studying the population in Augury Int I do believe most of them are bots. They do not move or emote, do not form groups, they are almost all monks and when most of them speak they only say "shou wu qi". In fact, they seem to be programmed to say this over and over. I think the bots are only there long enough to get their backpacks cleared out, then they are sent back out to farm. The market for GW gold on Ebay is huge and has become quite an industry.

To those who think they're all botters:
I've talked to quite a few of them in Chinese and unless they have bots are intelligent enough to respond to horribly romanacized Chinese (never learned pinyin), they're not bots. The reason they're in Augury is the majority of them are gryphon farmers.

Why would they sell at 50-75% of the max price?
Because their goal is to sell quickly for the max profit available. You're right, they make their money selling gold and they get that gold by selling items to human players. They farm so much that their inventories are swelled up to the point that they would rather dump at 75% market value than try to push for 100%.

Where do I get my 75% estimate from? Perfect mods.

If you visit Ascalon1, LA1, or DF1 (all American districts) the current going price for 10/10 sunder axe haft is 50-60k. Anybody selling in the 30-40k range usually has a Chinese name with broken English.

Son of Mooky · Nov 15, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Try this:

Wo yao mai = I want to buy
jin = gold

then put in whatever item/ price and see if they reply more.

shou is the shortened =xiao shou which means to sell
they can't use mai because it can be translated in to buy or sell depending on the tone used.